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1 Clandestino Jeg går alene med min sorg Min straff er ensom Min skjebne er å løpe for å lure loven Fortapt i hjertet av Babylon De kaller meg den skjulte siden jeg ikke har papirer Til en by i Nord dro jeg for å jobbe Jeg forlot livet mitt mellom Ceuta og Gibraltar Jeg er en strømning i havet Et spøkelse i byen Mitt liv er forbudt sier myndighetene (Mano Chao)

2 Desaparecido De kaller meg den forsvunne, Som når jeg kommer, alt har dratt Jeg flyr når jeg kommer, jeg flyr når jeg drar Når de leter etter meg, er jeg der aldri Når de finner meg, er jeg ikke den som står der for jeg har allerede dratt videre bortover der De kaller meg den forsvunne, et spøkelse som aldri er der De kaller meg den utakknemlige, men det er ikke sant Jeg har en smerte i kroppen som ikke lar meg puste Jeg har en dom i kroppen: Jeg må alltid løpe videre (Manu Chao)

3 De usynlige -en konferanse om papirløse migranter

4 Trygve G. Nordby, Norges Røde Kors Sturla Stålsett, Kirkens Bymisjon •Hva vet vi om situasjonen i Norge i dag; hvem er de papirløse migrantene; behov, dilemmaer og rettigheter?

5 Per Kristian Aale Journalist Aftenposten •Historiene bak; noen historier om papirløse migranter; hvordan lever de og hvilke problemer møter de? •Bakgrunnen for Aftenpostens serie om papirløse migranter; hva var målet og tanken bak?

6 Charlotta Arwidsson, Sveriges Røde Kors •Erfaringer og dilemmaer man møter i arbeidet med papirløse migranter i Sverige. Fokus på helse.

7 Clandestino Jeg går alene med min sorg Min straff er ensom Min skjebne er å løpe for å lure loven Fortapt i hjertet av Babylon De kaller meg den skjulte siden jeg ikke har papirer Til en by i Nord dro jeg for å jobbe Jeg forlot livet mitt mellom Ceuta og Gibraltar Jeg er en strømning i havet Et spøkelse i byen Mitt liv er forbudt sier myndighetene (Mano Chao)

8 Desaparecido De kaller meg den forsvunne, Som når jeg kommer, alt har dratt Jeg flyr når jeg kommer, jeg flyr når jeg drar Når de leter etter meg, er jeg der aldri Når de finner meg, er jeg ikke den som står der for jeg har allerede dratt videre bortover der De kaller meg den forsvunne, et spøkelse som aldri er der De kaller meg den utakknemlige, men det er ikke sant Jeg har en smerte i kroppen som ikke lar meg puste Jeg har en dom i kroppen: Jeg må alltid løpe videre (Manu Chao)

9 Marjan Mensinga, Lampion •Informasjonsarbeid rettet mot papirløse migranter i Nederland. Fokus på informasjonsspredning og rettigheter

10 Lampion Health care for undocumented migrants

11 Linkage act and undocumented migrants •Undocumented Migrants are not entitled to social security services as: •Social housing •Social (financial) support •Health insurance •All those rights are linked to a permit to stay

12 Exception to the act •Education of school-age children (till 18 yrs) •Legal aid •Necessary Medical care •Healthcare to prevent infectious diseases and some psychiatric symptoms (to prevent suicide or endangering others)

13 Necessary Medical Care •Doctors are bound by the Hippocratic oath, rules of conduct, and legislation to offer qualitative care.

14 Who is paying the doctor The Undocumented Migrant if it’s not possible for him: The Linkage funds.

15 The linkage funds •Created by the Dutch government for the treatment of undocumented migrants by the regular healthcare organisations. •It only compensates the costs of caregivers of primary healthcare such as general practioners, midwives, pharmacies and dentists

16 Doubtful debtors •General hospitals, psychiatric care and nursing homes are not compensated for the given care. They have created an account for doubtful debtors.

17 Lampion •Set up by a number of national organisations. •Started in 2004 •It’s a national information and advisory service (helpdesk and website for the healthcare of undocumented migrants

18 The members of the platform at Lampion •National Mental Health organisation •National Primary Healthcare organisation •General Practioners Association •Sexual Transmitted Diseases/Aids organisation •Dutch Council for Refugees •The Linkage Funds •The Tuberculoses Organisation

19 The website Gives information about: •Linkage funds •Admission to healthcare for undocumented migrants •Housing for undocumented migrants •Duty for doctors and other care givers to provide help

20 •Obstetric care •The rights to healthcare for undocumented migrants •All kind of relevant articles about this subject

21 The Helpdesk Frequently asked questions

22 In 2007 •Who pay’s the bill of the doctor (dentist, midwife, hospital). (128) •General health care information regarding undocumented migrants (82) •Possibilities for healthcare (68) •Juridical procedures (52) •Access to hospitals (49)

23 •Housing (35) •(Not) paying the bill of the doctor (midwife, dentist, hospital) (33) •Possibility for an insurance (14) •Access to psychiatric hospitals and nursing homes (12) •What is necessary medical care (4)

24 Who is asking the questions Divided into Care givers/hospitals and others

25 Care givers/hospitals •General hospital23 •Mental health care21 •Other healthcare21 •Social Work14 •General Practioner13 •Youth care9

26 •Midwives6 •Social reception centre5 •Dentist3 •Total110

27 Others •Family/friends118 •Organisations for UM43 •Students/research worker23 •UM himself21 •Legal aid13 •Churches6

28 •Schools6 •Prison5 •Debt collecting agency4 •Media3 •Authorities2 •Others2

29 •Subtotal Others246 •Subtotal Caregivers/hospitals110 •Total who asked questions356

30 Subdivision •Men104 •Women136 •Children49 •Unknown34 •Total323

31 •Pregnant women41 •UM with HIV/Aids13

32 Undocumented Children •The questions were about 43 children •2 girls were pregnant •4 times the doctor suspected child abuse •2 times an undocumented child with a chronic disease would soon be 18 years old and were to leave the Netherlands, but could not be send away.

33 Case 1 •Father/mother are legally in the Netherlands. Baby was born in the hospital. He was not yet legal. When the baby was 2 months old, he got the bill from the hospital because he was born there. When he was 4 months old, he got an official permit to stay and he was insured with his mother. •What do we have to do with the bill?

34 Case 2 •An UM calls from the prison. He is there because he is illegally in the Netherlands and the next day he will be released. He has diabetes and high blood pressure. Were can he find any help and, more importantly, medication. •Can Lampion help him?

35 Case 3 •The social worker of a hospital calls. Her client needs follow-up care. Can he see a doctor and who is paying the bill?

36 Case 4 •A mother with 4 young children. They live in a church. She is depressive and can’t take care of her children. •The volunteer of the church wants to know what to do.

37 Sanna Vestin, Redda Barnen •Problemstillinger og erfaringer i arbeid med hjelpetelefon for barn uten oppholdstillatelse i Sverige

38 Jon Ole Martinsen, Seif Reidar Hjermann, Barneombudet Ragnhild Magelssen, Avd. for migrasjonshelse, Oslo Kommune Sverre Varvin, Nasjonalt Kunnskapssenter for vold og traumatisk stress Morten Tjessem, Noas Trygve G. Nordby, Norges Røde Kors Sturla Stålsett, Kirkens Bymisjon •Hva kan vi gjøre i arbeidet videre med papirløse migranter i Norge?

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